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FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

My JHymn Help and Info now explains what to do before updating to iTunes 4.7.1. I will build this change (removing 'iods' atoms) into a future update of JHymn, and possibly add some other improved scrubbing to try, as best as I can, to avoid future issues like this when iTunes 4.7.2 or 4.8 or whatever comes out.

Much more subtle markings of purchased files than these 'iods' atoms are possible, however, so I expect this will be an ongoing battle.

Guest · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:20 pm Post subject:

I can't play any of my hymned files any more in iTunes.

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

The offending atom seems to be 'iods'. If you update your JHymn "Unwanted Atom" preferences thus:

(apID)
(cprt)
(iods)

That should get you over the current issue with iTunes 4.7.1. You'll have to check off ".m4a" among the file types checked to re-scrub your old files.

This is a preliminary early report... I wiped my iPod clean and am reloading it now. There've been no warning messages about unauthorized files so far.

The "AppleMark" issue that someone else brought up seem to be something buried within the cover art ('covr') atom. This DOES NOT seem to CURRENTLY pose a problem, but it's certainly something to look into. Of course, deleting the 'covr' atom would get rid of this identifying mark, but having to throw out your cover art it a bit of a high price to pay, so we'll all have to look into modifying this away while still keeping cover art intact.

Guest · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: Works for me

I have several m4p's (from the Canadian iTMS) that I've decrypted with FairKeys and JHymn. Removed only cprt and apID atoms, iods is still there. They all play perfectly fine in iTunes 4.7.1. Can anyone explain why?

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

guest · Guest

i have unlocked with hymm and then converted to mp3, do i run the risk of having them not play?
any ideas

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

nodis · Guest

FP --

Would it not also be prudent to add (geID) to the list of atoms to be removed as a matter of course from iTMS purchased files? This atom does not seem to exist in other AAC fules, right?

Also, just curious, what does the (iods) atom do? As far as I can tell it is somehow linked to the "Parental Advisory" graphic that appears in the "Get Info" box of some iTMS tracks, but I am not sure if that is the full story.

Thanks for the great work.

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

luaP deirub I · Guest

A couple things: It's pretty obvious that Apple is reading these forums and reacting in an attempt to thwart your efforts. So perhaps it's time to start playing (poker) and not tip your hand so easily?

APPLE: If you continue to pull shit like this, I will stop buying music from you and go back to the CD stores. Once I have the music, it is my right to be able to play it without worry of you keeping iTunes in business. What if McCartney shuts you down? Do I lose the ability to play all the music that I've bought? BS. Stop fucking with us.

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

Guest · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

I did not update to iTUNES 4.7.1 yet. Instead, I checked m4a files purchased from allofmp3 with JHymn "Open as Text" function, and they have an iods atom, too (see below). I wonder if they will work with iTUNES 4.7.1 ??? Should I just install 4.7.1 and check it out?

FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

Guest · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:

OK, I updated from iTunes 4.7 to 4.7.1. On my iPod, I have a mix of AAC files (m4a), protected files (m4p), and 'ordinary' MP3's. Some of the m4a files were purchased from allofmp3 (and therefore tot scrubbed), others were created some time ago with Hymn, the newer ones were created with JHymn (which is the best free application I've ever seen, really. Many thanks to FutureProof!). Unwanted atomes were set to (apID) and (cprt), later I added (covr). Here are my test results, which I do not understand at all:
1. m4a files purchased from allofmp3 seem to be ok, as FP assumed
2. m4a files created with Hymn could not be played via iTunes (files are stored on iPod) - "the computer is not authorized ..."
3. m4a files created with JHymn were OK (even with 'iods' atom) .... hmm...
4. Protected m4p are ok, as expected
5. iTunes did not delete any file on my iPod (as far as I can see)
6. I then deleted one m4a file (from the file type unter item #2 above) from the iPod, ran JHymn on it, and imported it back into iTunes and IPod - result: playable, even with 'iods' .... hmm ...
7. The files which iTunes refuses to play (#2), do play well on the iPod when it is disconnected from the PC - strange, isn't it?
Maybe I did something completely wrong or stupid, .... but maybe FP understands....
Again, thanks very much for your app and support.
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reconbot · Guest

Jhymn works like a charm but I'm still faced with one problem.

How do I find which files I need to scrub? Obviously I know the ones that won't play need them but they're all m4a now. I'm not to keen on scrubbing my entire library so I'm sorta going by date at the moment. Anyway to search by atom?