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[Caspar407]

Ok - now I'm officially confused.

I posted an item in a thread in Technical because I found a blog that reports the release of Requiem 1.8.5. Just so others can verify for themselves what I've read I posted a link to the blog. My link gets edited out by a moderator, with a note to 'See the FAQ'. The only thing there about links is not to post links to software, and no mention of blogs. And since there are links posted elsewhere in these forums I don't understand the edit.

I reworded my post and included a quote having carefully edited out the name of the place that the software has been found.

Later I look again. Now I find that another user has revealed that the software has been released on Freenet. It has. It's the name I carefully edited out.

This site has a policy of not disclosing the location of software that everyone comes here looking for. I understand the reasons, but I don't understand why a reference to Freenet doesn't breach the edicts in the FAQ but link to a blog entry seemingly does. And since Freenet seems to be acceptable here why isn't it acceptable to publish the name of the FamousNauticalTorrentSite.org that normally provides a route to access?

[iTunesIsEvil]

Dont't take it personally. Mentioning that it's available out there is one thing, linking to something that even may link to the software is something entirely different.

So if you said "I saw 1.8.5 is availble out there on <something generic>" it probably would have been fine. But since you provided a link to a site it was easiest if we took the link out.
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[DrmBytes]

The blog you linked to in your post was going to post a link to the file (and in fact did as that's how I was able to get it. LOL). And that's not something I really wanted to deal with on the site. I understand your confusion and apologize if I added to it by editing your post. Mentioning places to look is ok. Freenet is not a link but a reference to a place you can go find. Pirate Bay is also not a link, but, a reference to a place you can go look. Personally I wish more people would learn how to use google to find things. It'd make everyone's life easier. We just can't afford to link to places that either host it or themselves link to sites that host it. I hope you understand.
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[Caspar407]

Ok - I'm not sure I accept the argument, but I'll abide by the rules.

It scarcely seems to matter too much anyway, since iTunes 8.1 has already broken Requiem 1.8.5. I suspect that the Littlevale blogger is right - Apple already has the capability to break Requiem easily, and will do so at each new release. Maybe iTunes Plus is the real Requiem here!

[DrmBytes]

Of course they have the ability to easily break requiem. That's been known since the first release. The keystore is encrypted. They change anything about that encryption and requiem no longer works. However, with the key caching, we have a game changing scenario. See my comments about using requiem 1.8.5 with iTunes 8.1. If you have your keys cached it'll work until you get a new key. No more fucking around with old keystores and copying them around and all that crap. I see this as a very positive move by Brahms to give himself more time between each requiem release.

As for our argument, it's simply to protect the site. Yes, we're going overboard to do so. I admit that. But we do what we have to because I still feel this site is a useful resource as I hope you agree.
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[alomejornt]

Either i'm missing the point or the house is trembling like a dog covering his butt with his tail. Correct me if i'm wrong: 'That u cannot post a link to a program or whatever is available in a public domain.

The last i heard at the univ. i attended years ago is that the: 'Internet is not owned by anyone - that means, that if the info is out there floating around, it is considered to be 'Public Info' - Nobody owns it - It's up there for grabs and if anyone asks for links or how to resolve whatever, i think that's what brought us together'.

You can ban this message or myself if it suits u well, but if u do that i think ur in the wrong business. Just this morning i entered a forum on BitComet regarding: 'sharing, downloading movies, music, programs all that + some'.
i tip my hat to how they (BitComet) handle the subject of sharing info when they get an official legal representative send 'em a certified letter urging 'em to Stop & Desist their modus operandi. I think BitComet handles it when a member 1st registers.

Not everybody is a pirate, a lot of us just have some technical issues to resolve and where do we go - to the internet-the best public library available to mankind. Correct me if i'm wrong, that way i'll learn something new today. While writing this msg i executed a program: 'Switch Sound File Converter' and it did the job for me - am i gonna get banned or be punished with 50 lashes w/a wet noodle. do as you please or whatever makes u feel safe complying to someone's demand on a public domain. It is Public - Nooobody owns it. You've got nottin better to do if u read all th.. Peace..
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[alomejornt]

one must make a reference to the owner ... very simple to acknowledge giving credit to the original creator.
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[DrmBytes]

I think you're quite misguided. For one, this site is not public domain. You don't have a right to it. It's here at the discretion of the owner and us moderators. As such we reserve the right to ban or censor anyone we see fit for any reason we like. That's not to say we go around unjustly banning or censoring people, but, we reserve the right to do as we wish. When we say we do not allow links to be posted here, we mean, we do not allow links to be posted here. To think that I give a damn about your personal opinion of that policy is also misguided. It's very simple....if people follow the rules we have in place, there is no problem. If they break the rules that we have in place, then we, as moderators of this site, can and will enforce whatever punishment we see fit. Most people simply need to be reminded and that's that. Others don't get the hint and are removed. It's not really so hard is it? To think you can do whatever you want on the internet at any given time is kind of ludicrous. Whether you choose to follow the rules or not is up to you.
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