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DrmBytes · Moderator Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 3002

Gee, let me ask them. Hey, Apple, are you going to change the algorithm and force an update on us? Cause, um, I lost my secret future predicting batman decoder ring that tells me all that shit...
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ejonesss · Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 744 Location: usa

sorry i upset you.

DrmBytes · Moderator Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 3002

I'm not upset. I'm amused. There's a difference.
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MossPile · Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 16777215

Interestingly enough, iTunes 7.6.1 just showed up. I'll be interested to see whether it changes the DRM scheme...

DrmBytes · Moderator Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 3002

WOO HOO. Just what we always wanted.
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MossPile · Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 16777215

... and it doesn't.

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Annath · Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 325

I doubt they could update the algorithms that fast, nor would they do it with a minor version change.
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Joseph S. · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: iTunes Alternatives

I started using iTunes several years ago when I got an iPod shuffle. The shuffle died after very little use (from my reading the support forums, I think an iTunes upgrade bricked it). Despite this, I really fell in love with the iTunes browser interface and started using it instead of Windows Media Player. I didn't buy music on the iTunes Store, however, because I'd been burned by DRM before (losing licenses to hard drive crashes, etc.), and I refused to buy music online until I had an easy way to remove it. So when I found QTFairUse, I started buying music online again. In fact, because of it, I've bought over $100 worth of music off of iTunes. I don't support stealing music, but I need to be able to take my music to work or to school with no hassle or worries. Without QTFairUse, I have no reason to buy music from iTunes anymore.

So my question is: what is the best alternative to iTunes? What is the best player out there that offers a similar library browser interface? It doesn't have to interface with an iPod (both of my iPods died within months of their purchase... Apple, you suck). I am happy to buy my music from Amazon, etc. if Apple is so determined to lose my business, but I'd ideally like a player with a built-in purchase feature. Does such a product exist?

To the people who worked on QTFairUse: thank you for all your hard work. For my part, your software's support of fair use had more to do with me being an Apple customer than any of their marketing. I appreciate what you did, even if Apple doesn't (they should, I wouldn't have bought anything from them if it weren't for you).

nexus · Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 15

@Apple (if you read it Very Happy

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You people are plain stupid!!
Do you actually think that this will work?? It's one company against millions of millions of users... you gotta be pretty stupid to think you can fight and win against that... Rolling Eyes

IFPI and RIAA does the same, and they WILL loose no mather how much they fight against it. You wanna punish 95% of the earths population for something that 5% is doing illegal? How stupid is that!

If you wanna fight piracy, then fight the ones that embrace it, the ones that makes it publicly availible, in other words host the piracy. Take down the servers, and things will get better!

I don't know how your brains work, but doesn't it seem very unfair that music you have purchased, and therefore OWN, shall not be allowed to be played on whatever music device you want...?

You can NEVER stop piracy, don't you know that by now?? It's been proved time and again! You're living in a dreamworld if you think that's actually ever possible to do!

If you're so afraid of piracy and abuse, then there is only one thing left for you to do: STOP SELLING THE MUSIC, MOVIES, SOFTWARE!!!

If you don't share it with the world, you won't need to see it being stolen either. To apply DRM to your products is to start in the wrong place. Your saying that you don't trust your customers, and you show it by trying to narrow their possibilities as much as possible.

I hereby declare that I will never more buy music from you if you keep on doing this DRM shit!!! I'm gonna start buying it from stores that do not sell DRM music, and that also gives you freedom to choose audio format (like FLAC or MP3) and bitrate.

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DrmBytes · Moderator Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 3002

First a note to all those who've PM'd me asking for the software: DON'T. I will never be giving it out to anyone. That is the point of a C&D and I've obviously chosen to abide by it. So don't bother asking me. At this point I won't even respond to any PM's asking me for it. I will simply delete them.

Second, I still think iTunes itself is a decent media management software. Even if you buy music from places like Amazon, you can easily import it into iTunes to keep everything organized. In fact, Amazon has the option of directly importing your music into iTunes so you're good there. This is what I'll be doing from now on. If there's any music out there that's not available for digital purchase without DRM, I will refuse to buy it. I don't care if I like the song or not. If it contains DRM and that is the only way to purchase it, then I will refuse to buy it. That doesn't mean I'll go pirate it, either. I know some of you will be tempted to do so. That is NOT the solution or answer here. Boycott the entire song until it's made available on a store that you can legally purchase from without the DRM. If you REALLY can't live without the song, purchase the CD that it's on and rip it to your hard drive.

What I'm trying to say is that the spirit of this site and the movement behind it must live on even if we're no longer allowed to host utilities that aid us in the fair use fight. Apple obviously doesn't get it and won't be getting any of my money as a result. (Too bad, too, as I was considering an iPod upgrade in the near future. That iPod touch would have been nice, but, now I may have to consider something else. Oh well, Apple, your loss not mine.) Pissing off loyal consumers who buy lots of music from your store is not a good way to stay in business or grow your revenue. I hope you come to your senses and figure out that DRM is bad for your business. You shareholders should be pressuring you to drop it, as well. After all, I'm assuming they want to make money. If you're not bringing in revenue, your shares will go down and they will make less profit. So, consider that. And take to heart the spirit of this site.
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