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FutureProof · Site Admin Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 1013

Here's what (brave man who uses his real name, and friend of DVD Jon) Cody Brocious has come up with so far:

Link(s) removed. -iTIE

I suggest that those who want to go further with iTunes 6 reverse engineering contact Cody through his blog and get recommendations on tools, techniques, and other resources.

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Tester · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 2

Sadly, the URL is getting unexpected errors now... I jumped there to see how work was progressing and it appears as if a voice has been silenced.

I guess our good friends at Apple are monitoring our activities closely...

We interfere with there profit margins...

markofkane · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject:

My 2 cents: I think the Government going after Google to turn over records of things that were typed in the search bar is the beginning of censorship.

Soon, if this is allowed to happen, all potentially "illegal" inquiries will be stopped, or at least tracked to the person doing the inquiry.

We may think we have a right, but the government can fix that. (1984, remember the book?)

But, in the meantime, as long as Jhymn works with itunes 5, and we are not forced to upgrade, I'll use it. When the party's over, I'll go to something else.

itunes6 seems to be uncrackable, or at least, there are not enough "nerds" working on it to make a crack successful. It's sad, but:

I want to express my gratitude to the makers of Jhymn. You have made using itunes a pleasure. Thank you so much for your work!!!!

When we are forced to use itunes6, I will quit buying music from itunes. There are other sources for music, and I can remove DRM without burning to CD first.

I won't turn my back on Jhymn, I am just going to wait and see if any real progress is made. I wish I were smart enough to figure it out.
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Guest · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: Stop crying

Jhymn is great. But so what if you have to burn a CD to remove DRM. With CDs as cheap as they are does it really matter anymore if you burn one just to trash it later? Burn your stinking CD, keep it as a backup and move on with your lives.

buchananmb · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 26

you lose sound quality when you burn and rip. you don't with jhymn. go back to the kiddie pool dumbass.

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Guest · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

I've had my meds now and am all about the love. I retract my previous callousness.

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markofkane · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:34 am Post subject:

Dumbass??? Alright, YOU make a program that can remove DRM from itunes music that was bought using the itunes6 account.

If we are forced to update to 6 to buy any songs from Apple, we will no longer be able to strip the DRM without a process that degrades the sound quality.

So, you'll have choices if forced to update to itunes6:

1. Quit buying music through itunes.

2. Accept the songs as they are, DRM and all, and if your Hard-Drive crashes, you'll lose it all.

3. Burn to CD, then rerip it back to the computer, so you can use the songs as you please.

DRM will not stop pirating. If I wanted to steal music, I could get it from peer to peer, and some of the songs were probably stripped of DRM by first burning it to CD.

We do not have to burn to CD to strip DRM YET, but when itunes is mandatory, we will have to, if we want to have free use of the songs.

(Unless, JHymn or a similar program is able to break itunes 6 + DRM)
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Guest · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:54 am Post subject:

Hey buchananmb, how much sound quality you think you really lose burning to a CD and then ripping it? You arent re-ripping it first off. Second, the itunes songs are 128kbps AAC. Burn it to a cd at that bit rate and then rip it back to 128kbps AAC with no DRM. You wont notice a difference. Unless you're like Mr. Spock with some special ears or something Smile

Guest · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:31 am Post subject:

Quality is subjective, but I'm definitely not an audiophile but I can certainly hear a huge difference in songs that have gone through reripping @128kbps 2x over! I can even hear the difference listening to the songs on my mp3 player through cheapo $9 earbuds.

markofkane · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:10 am Post subject:

When I convert a song to mp3, I choose 256kbps or more. I cannot tell the difference between that, and a 128 kbps WMA, or AAC.

And I have a creative labs speaker system with subwoofer connected to my computer.
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buchananmb · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 26

I had most of my collection in .mp3 before re-ripping or re-purchasing it all in .m4a (aac). I could tell the difference at similar bit rates between mp3 and m4a on a $100 pair of travel headphones. That said, this is all lossy; so it's what it is. I just don't want a lossy 128 kbps from iTunes to sound even worse than it already may because I burned/ripped it. Not to mention have to re-do the tags. If you buy a little once in a while I guess it's ok, but if you drop 300 tracks at a time...